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cigar_joel
Senior Member
Registered: April 2007
Location: Kansas City, In my humidor!!
Posts: 1805
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Review Date: Wed May 23, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 7
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Good flavor
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Burn poblems
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I lit this up yesterday. Very nice cigar. Medium bodied and a bit of sweetness. Beautiful wrapper and construction. Flavor was good the through-out the cigar. Flavors stayed constant.
1/3 - A few burn problems. Lot's of sweet, rich flavors. A lot of unique flavors coming through, not all work together.
2/3 - Burn problem worked out, draw is still just a bit tight. Flavors are good and constant but i am not sure if they all belong together, unusual taste on the finish.
3/3 - Not a bad cigar, not a nubber but not bad. Seems like an inexpensive $3-5 stick. Just wish it had some time to sit and let the flavors blend.
Draw backs to this cigar:
1) When i cut this cigar, i counted 6 stems poking out of the head, this didn't affect the draw much but made for an unattractive haed.
2) Great flavors but they didn't all work together. I think this cigar needs a few years of aging.
Overall, a great stick. I would be willing to pay $2-$4 for this cigar.
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Cigar Lives Por Larranaga and Petit Corona whore!
Hi John!!!
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bobbyg29
CL's Mad Cigar Scientist
Registered: April 2007
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 1719
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Review Date: Fri May 25, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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construction, complex flavors
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too sweet, splotchy wrapper, inconsistency
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Blind Tasting Panel Review #104
? 5 5/8” x 45, Corona, box press
ATMOSPHERE: Smoked on my patio on another beautiful Arizona morning paired with a cup of French-roast coffee and Van Zant on my iPod.
PRE-SMOKE:
Scent: Cocoa sweetness from wrapper, mostly earth from the foot.
Appearance: Dark chocolate brown wrapper, maybe a maduro or a very dark natural. Veiny, splotchy wrapper with what looked almost like water stains. Fairly sharp box press.
Feel: Tightly packed and a little dry, not too much give when squeezed.
Pre-light draw: Cut with a punch. Mostly earthy/dirt taste on pre-light.
SMOKE:
Taste & Flavor: Started out with a very sweet taste similar to Kaluha flavored coffee. Some hints of nuttiness. Pretty variable from puff-to-puff in the first half. Sometimes very very sweet, other times a bit more nutty and earthy. Made my black coffee taste sweet when I drank it which I did not really like. Changed dramatically in the second half to more leathery/nutty with only a hint of sweetness which I liked much more. When exhaled through the nose I got the sensation of a double-double coffee i.e., sugary and creamy.
Strength: For me this fell right between mild and medium. No harshness whatsoever.
Feeling: Good resistance to chewing.
Scent of smoke: Very non-offensive sweet, creamy smelling smoke. I imagine that non-smokers wouldn’t mind if you smoked this around them.
Heat: None.
Draw & Burn: Somewhat tight draw at first but not too bad. Average amount of smoke. Pretty even burn that did not require any correction. Cap held well for entire smoke.
Finish: Fairly long very sweet finish for first half, again tasting like coffee flavored with Kaluha.
OTHER:
Ash: Solid salt and pepper colored ash that held well.
Duration: Nubbed in just under 1hour.
CONCLUSION:
The first half of this cigar was too sweet for my tastes but it calmed down nicely in the second half to be a nutty, leathery smoke. Given the flavored-coffee taste and the abrupt change in sweetness I would venture a guess that this was a cigar dipped in something…presumably the sweetness died out as the dip wore off. It reminded me a lot of the Dirt and Java by Drew Estate. To me they tried to do too much with this cigar…the nice flavors in the second half were masked by inconsistent sweetness. I would imagine that a lot of smokers (that like a flavored cigar now and then) would really like this cigar so I would recommend it. I myself would not like to smoke another one as it was too sweet for my tastes. I will give it a reasonably good score because it was interesting, well-constructed and I did like the second half.
FINAL RATING: 6.7/10
Cheers!
Rob
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Contributing Author and Resident "Cigar Science Guy", Team Stogie Fresh
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ilovecl
Banned
Registered: April 2007
Location: I LOVE CL
Posts: 4332
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Review Date: Fri May 25, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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Construction, flavor, draw, ash
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I dont know what it is!
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I grabbed the unknown #104 and headed out to my garage for my nightly smoke. I took with me an AC/DC Back in Black CD and a sprite.
The cut was perfect, the burn was perfect, the construction was perfect. The flavors were almost perfect. I toasted the foot and lit her up. It started out very smooth. I would say a Med bodied smoke on the mild side of med. It has a nice box press which sat nicely in the lips. The flavors were of cocoa, toasted wood, and a lil leather. I got a little of a bad finish towards the middle of the stick. but it went back to great. I had no burn problems at all with this stick. The ash was very nice and held on well. I can't wait to find out what this is, because I want to buy a box. I will have to say I think these will be even better with a lil age on them. If I had to guess I would say the wrapper might be a Honduran leaf with Domenican or Nic. fillers. 
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I LOVE CL!
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Cabaiguan Juan
New Member
Registered: May 2007
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 15
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Review Date: Sun May 27, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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Nice looking wrapper, nice burn, flavor
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Cons:
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went out halfway through and could not revive it
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This corona size cigar started off looking great and promising. It had a nice sheen on the wrapper, great construction and the burn and ash were impressive for the most part.
1/3:
As i lit it up, the first third tasted nutty with an underling taste of good chocolate.
2/3:
The second third was a big change in flavor. Once I hit the 2/3 mark, the flavor almost immediately changed to sweet cream.
Unfortunately, at the halfway mark, the cigar died on me and several attempts to get it going again all failed. I'd definitely try it again. I'd love to find out what this stick is.
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America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936
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GoinFerSmoke
Forum Moderator
Registered: March 2007
Location: Salem
Posts: 4981
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Review Date: Mon May 28, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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overall construction
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Cons:
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lot's of discoloration toward the head
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Now this one arrived madly discolored almost as if water had gotten to it. I know that is not the case but it did detract from the beauty of it, that aside, it was very nicely constructed.
Firm to the squeeze and held only smallish veins along the chocolaty maduro wrapper.
It started out on the midl side of medium then definitely turned to a regular medium smoke.
This cigar was a tasty delight, hints of cocoa, nuts, coffee and pepper. It ranged from sweet to a smooth creaminess and enjoyable overall.
Good draw to it, not a lot of smoke from the cigar after drawing so it was a surprise to see how much smoke I blew out...
The burn was nice, had to touch it up a couple of times to stop the run but I find maduros do tend to do this.
I would definitely recommend this one and also go out and buy it too. Main turnoff was just the discoloration but in the dark where I smoked it, it definitely did not defer my wanting to smoke it. It was overall a very nice, complex smoke that afforded me a relaxful enjoyment for the end of an evening.
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Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything. - Frank Dane
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JohnRider
Iowa Statesman
Registered: April 2007
Location: Eastern IA
Posts: 2662
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Review Date: Mon May 28, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Very good construction, hearty flavor, never harsh
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Cons:
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small, draw was just a little bit tight
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Pre-smoke
Scent of Wrapper: I did not pick up much of anything.
Scent at Foot: Again, not much aroma coming off this cigar.
Appearance: (image of cigar)
Wrapper: Wrapper had an interesting velvet appearance. Not rough, but not shiney and slick either.
Feel: The cigar felt firm and consistent from head to foot.
Tongue: Didn't test.
Flavor on Draw: Didn't test.
Smoke
Taste: (1) Cigar started out very hearty and rich. I would say this is a medium to medium-full cigar. Dark coffee notes, maybe a little earth. Very mellow, never harsh.
Flavor Changes: (image of cigar)
(2) After the halfway point, the cigar developed a little more character and complexity. Although I did not find it overly complex, it did have something hiding in the background, I think.
Strength: The strength was a consistent medium to medium-full.
Heat on Fingers and in Mouth: The cigar burned well, with no problems with fingers and mouth.
Draw: Good. Perhaps just a tad on the tight draw side.
Finish: Pleasant flavor with a medium finish.
Final Rating:
Construction rated 8. Flavor rated 7.
I enjoyed the overall flavor of the cigar. Based on the construction, flavor and overall experience I would rate this cigar a 7.8 which places it in the very good category.
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Warning: This Post May Contain Cynicism Known To The State of California To Cause Depression, Social Ostracism And Other Reproductive Harm.
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Topshelf14
Very Active Member
Registered: March 2007
Location: Old Hickory, TN
Posts: 506
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Review Date: Tue May 29, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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Flavor after the first third
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Cons:
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Harsh beginning, ugly wrapper
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Pre-smoke
Scent of Wrapper: Earth and cocoa powder
Scent at Foot: Rich earth
Wrapper: Dry wrapper, some blotches, cut in the wrapper about where the band would be.
Feel: Box-press with some spongy spots
Tongue: Rather bland
Flavor on Draw: Muted earthy notes
Smoke
Taste: Slight ammonia taste, notes of pencil lead, harsh in the beginning. Just before the halfway point the cigar became less bitter and I picked up on hints of espresso and toasted almond
Flavor Changes: Once at the halfway point
Strength: Medium to medium-full
Scent of Smoke: A bit musty
Heat on Fingers and in Mouth: The cigar and smoke both became hot with about an inch-and-a-half left and the bitterness returned
Draw: Slightly firm draw. Not a lot of smoke
Finish: Long, bitter finish at the start changing to a flinty aftertaste later in the cigar
Other Aspects of the Cigar Smoking Experience: Went out around just after the halfway point. Had to relight.
This cigar started out as harsh and bitter as it looked, but began to mellow out about a third of the way in. I would have liked a bit more smoke from the cigar, but I did like the eventual flavor. Maybe I should have cut the first half-inch or so off to start with. LOL!
Final Rating: 5.75
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Joe
Nashville Cigar Club
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dHUTCH
Military
Registered: May 2007
Location: Brenham
Posts: 899
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Review Date: Wed May 30, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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Taste, Smell
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Cons:
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Heat, Draw
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After clipping the end off this smoke, I gave it a puff....At first I thought the draw was a lil tight for me likings. First puff after lighting was amazing. This thing had a nice medium feel to it. The flavor was that of a nice aged smoke, kind of reminded me of an Anejo but not as strong. To my surprise the tight draw yielded quite a bit of smoke. The taste did not linger in the mouth, which I think makes a good smoke to have a drink with. Neither the drink nor the smoke takes away from the others flavor. About 1/2 way through the cigar started to mellow out and this is when heat became an issue. A cigar of this size heats up faster than that of larger sticks. When I got down to the last 1/3 the heat was too much and was creating a harsh/foul taste.
All in all this was a good smoke up to the last 1/3. I would def. buy a few more, if they were reasonably priced, for a situation where I did not have time to enjoy a larger smoke.
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dude. you'll never get
John51277 - "Boom...I love em"
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Steve D
Active Member
Registered: April 2007
Location: Newnan, GA
Posts: 213
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Review Date: Thu May 31, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Very pleasant cigar
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Cons:
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Couldn't really find any cons
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Conditions - early morning, paired with a cup of Killer Beanz Caribbean Cutthroat then water
Appearance - dull, dark brown wrapper, velvety feel
Construction - Very good, no soft spots, no significant veins
Draw - slight resistance - just right to my tastes
Prelight Flavor - sweetish - couldn't distinguish flavor
Light/Burn - lit well, burned evenly throughout, produced a mottled gray ash that held well.
First Third - Lots of smoke, not much flavor initially, built to a slightly sweet cocoa, felt somewhat creamy on the tongue. Straightforward nice tobacco aroma. Pleasant finish.
Middle Third - Sweetish cocoa continued, became somewhat leathery as well
Last Third - Same, added some woody notes.
General Comments - Maybe not a 'WOW' cigar but darn good. Never got harsh. Probably medium in strength. I'd definitely pick up some more to keep on hand. First maduro I've really enjoyed.
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Wingfan13
Senior Member
Registered: April 2007
Location: South Lyon, Mi
Posts: 1524
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Review Date: Sat June 2, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 7
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Pros:
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Construction, Burn, Draw
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Cons:
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The flavor wasnt for me.
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This wrapper was flawless. It had very thin veins and I could not find a flaw in the wrapper. The smell was OK.
I had this cigar around 10am while reading my Maxim magazine.
The cigar started out a little spicy. The burn was perfect as was the draw. There is a lot of smoke coming off of this one and so far there is nothing that pops out flavor wise for me.
The ash falls off after about an inch and the spice has mellowed. Thge burn is still perfect. I am starting to pick up some woodsy flavors in my mouth. So far my favorite things about this cigar is the burn.
I am down to the last inch or two and it is rather hot. The spice seems to have picked back up unless that is just the cigar getting harsh towards the end.
I wasnt a huge fan of the flavor of this cigar but if all cigars burnt this way I would be so happy. I think the strength was medium. I smoked it on an empty stomach so maybe that influenced that flavor.
I would like to try a couple more of these to see if I have the same experience. I noticed some people mentioning it being sweet and I didnt get that at all.
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Ceedee
Forum Moderator
Registered: March 2007
Location: The Blacktop Lounge - Matthews NC
Posts: 5513
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Review Date: Tue June 5, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Nice construction, wonderful draw, taste and aroma
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Too short (lol)!
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Scent of wrapper: Sweet, almost molassases - tobacco aroma
Scent at foot: Sweet and nutty. Wonderful!
Wrapper:Dark maduro with some veins, but wonderful construction. No cracks or splits. I like the construction.
Feel: Firm, with the right amount of give.
Tongue: I've stopped doing this as I have noticed it is affecting my palate in a negative manner.
Flavor on Draw: Sweet chocolatey goodness! Dry cocoa really...
Taste: Started out spicy. Then, the smoke exhibited some creamy cocoa and leather with small amounts of woodiness. The flavor profile became creamier by the first inch mark and didn't stop! Really dug the taste and nubbed it!
Feeling: I had some iced coffee with this little 'beaut and it was a perfect companion. I enjoyed the cigar from start to finish - I only wish it was a bit longer!
Scent of smoke: Pleasant aroma. Sweet tobacco.
Heat on fingers and in mouth: Nope
Draw: Fine draw (started out a bit stiff, but quickly loosened).
Finish: Short, sweet!
Other aspects of the Cigar Smoking Experience: Burn was sharp and ash held well. A perfect medium strength and body. A great afternoon or evening cigar! Loved it!
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"Vini, Vidi, Fodi!"
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tekeeladude
Forum Moderator
Registered: March 2007
Location: Omaha
Posts: 2043
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Review Date: Thu June 7, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 5
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Pros:
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Nice flavor
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Cons:
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Stems
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Scent of Wrapper: Scent of a chicken coup. (if you never been around one, you know what I'm talking about)
Scent at Foot: Sweet tobacco with almost a scent of cloves
Wrapper: Dark chocolate colored. Somewhat of a matte finish -- kind of a rustic look. A few small to medium veins.
Feel: Firm to hard at head. Firm sponginess down to the foot.
Tongue: Tingly spiciness
Flavor on Draw: Sweet with spice. Maybe a hint of nutmeg.
Taste: Started out with a spicy leather taste with a slight twang. At about 1-1/2" inches into cigar I picked up a bitter dark coffee flavor. Also getting an occasional spice (similar to cayenne) on the back of my throat. The spice faded and I began to pick up some woody flavors with bitter coffee. Put this cigar down with about 1-1/2" left as it got bitter.
Strength: Medium
Feeling: Pre-occupied with the tight draw and the stems in the head.
Scent of smoke: Spicey smokey scent
Heat on Fingers and in Mouth: Only a slight feel of heat towards the end
Draw: Somewhat tight draw. Made a few fine cuts with my Palio and this helped a little. I pulled out a couple of stems -- one a little over an inch long and one that was larger in diameter, but only about 1/4" inch. This opened up the draw, but it closed up as I smoked it.
Finish: Medium finish with tastes of leather and wood.
Other aspects of the cigar smoking experience: Very slow smoking, but enjoyable flavors.
Because of the draw problems and the stems, I only giving this cigar a 5. I would really like to smoke another one of these as it seems others had a much better experience.
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We're the last of the radio-free, piss and vinegar, American independents! ~ Roger Clyne
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RodneyFournier
Getting Active
Registered: April 2007
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 87
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Review Date: Mon June 11, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? No |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 5
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Pros:
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Even burn
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Cons:
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It was not a churchill
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Blind review. Corona 5 5/8" x 45
ATMOSPHERE: Smoked outside in the evening paired with fresh Alabama air.
PRE-SMOKE:
Scent: Very little dirt sell.
Appearance: Smooth, chocolate brown maduro wrapper.
Feel: Very light cigar. Nicely packed though a little dry. Needed more Humi time. Not oily at all.
Pre-light draw: Mostly dirt taste. Not much on the palate.
SMOKE:
Taste & Flavor: Light dirt flavor. Consistent throughout with maybe a slight decrease in the taste.
Strength: Very mild for a maduros. No harsh taste whatsoever.
Feeling: Very light and airy.
Scent of smoke: Can't think of it, too light.
Heat: Very little.
Draw & Burn: Solid throughout. No cracks in the wrapper. Perfect even burn all the way down.
Finish: Short, a little dry.
OTHER:
Ash: Nice burn and ash.
Duration: Smoked until about 1.5” remaining in roughly 1 hour.
CONCLUSION: A below average dirty maduro that was way little too mild for me, but a ok cigar nonetheless. I would recommend this cigar to people who don't want any flavor, but still enjoy smoking.
FINAL RATING: 5.0 - needed flavor
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Smoke 'em, if you got 'em 
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Cigar Jockey
Active Member
Registered: March 2007
Location: Tamworth, NH
Posts: 357
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Review Date: Mon June 11, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Med-Full flavor profile
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Cons:
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Flaky ash.
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Scent of wrapper: Spicy leather
Scent at Foot: earthy musty tobacco
Wrapper: Rustic Maduro w/ slight reddish hue. Minimal veins.
Feel: Solid the length of the stick, nicely rolled.
Tongue: Missed this part of the tasting.
Flavor on Draw:Chocolaty pre light draw.
Taste:1st puffs were full bodied blend of leather, pepper then continued to have dark chocolate notes and woodiness.
Became rather harsh the final 1/3. (Nicaragua Puro?)
Strength:Medium - Full at times.
Feeling: Really enjoyed the flavors and would like to try in a robusto.
Scent of smoke: Aged woody rich tobac aroma.
Heat on Fingers and in Mouth: just the final 1/3 in the mouth only.
Draw: No problem here, easy draw which produced clouds of smoke.
Finish: Chewy long finish of leather.
Other aspects of the cigar smoking experience: Even burn, but flaky ash. Other then that I would purchase considering the price factor.
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cabaiguan
Getting Active
Registered: March 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 98
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Review Date: Wed June 13, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 7
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Pros:
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well constructed
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shape and size a bit small
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I enjoyed this cigar and found it to be well constructed. From the first draw all the way to the nub, this was a mild, sweet, easy smoke that allowed me to breaze out. This cigar was too small as the smoke experience was only about 30 minutes and I wanted it to last longer as this was an enjoyable experience. I did not find that the flavor was too complex and this struck me as an easy going maduro smoke. I would smoke this cigar again.
Cabby
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mrgatorman
Senior Member
Registered: March 2007
Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posts: 7485
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Review Date: Sun July 15, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 7
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Pros:
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Nice construction, decent overall smoke
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Cons:
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Draw a little tight
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Scent of wrapper: cocoa/sweetness
Scent at foot: Earthy Nutty
Wrapper: Dark, no sheen, some veins, but nicely wrapped stick
Feel: Firm with just a little give
Tongue: cocoa/sweet
Flavor on Draw: dry cocoa/chocolate sweet
Taste: creamy spice/sweet cocoa for sure with hints of leather and wood
Feeling: nice stick went with iced coffee well.
Scent of smoke: spicy smokey
Heat on fingers and in mouth: normal
Draw: a little tight
Finish: short to medium
Other aspects of the Cigar Smoking Experience: burned well, no relights. great overall stick with some sneaky flavors.
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There's never a day when you cant say...Its great to be a Florida Gator!!! Go Gators !!!
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rmrdaddy
Active Member
Registered: April 2007
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 300
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Review Date: Tue July 24, 2007
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Would you recommend this to someone? Yes |
Price you paid? In US$: None indicated
| Rating: 5
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Pros:
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good burn, decent flavors
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Cons:
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bit of a rough appearance
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Scent of wrapper: leather and sweet cocoa
Scent at Foot: earthy, dark tobacco, cocoa hint
Wrapper: Maduro, somewhat rumpled in appearance
Feel: firm, felt well filled
Tongue: tangy
Flavor on Draw: Dark tobacco, rum like notes
Taste: leather with a bit of peppery spice. Flavors built and got a bit darker
Strength:Medium overall
Feeling: light smoke with a pleasant aroma, relaxing
Scent of smoke: again, dark tobacco, with woody smoke
Heat on Fingers and in Mouth: none
Draw: easy draw with good smoke production
Finish: chewy, with that leather again, and a twangy note too, fairly short
Burned well, decent flavor profile, would smoke these on occasion for a short smoke...
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